18:24:05 From wayne To Everyone:
	You have me muted without the ability to unmute. It's blocked.
18:36:39 From wayne To Everyone:
	info@uniforumchicago.org
18:36:40 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	I came semi regularly to the IIT meetings, and one or two before that, but the recent location is too far to drive
18:39:45 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	for the speaker:  have you looked at, compare the air car, powered by compressed air?
18:40:36 From Jim Weichel To Everyone:
	The Lucid Air - Yes
18:40:54 From Jim Weichel To Everyone:
	But compressed air - no
18:49:59 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	I remember wnen they were crushed
18:59:38 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	But you have to take your eyes off the road to do almost anything!
19:06:37 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	Jim:   Norway's 10% EV market share is sold per year, or EVs on the road for the country?
19:10:56 From wayne To Everyone:
	What happens to the performance of an EV when the battery gets down to less than 10% of full charge?
19:11:27 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	It drops
19:12:28 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Teslas don't have brakes?
19:13:03 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Of course it does 😉. You just don’t need them hardly at all
19:13:19 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	Oh, brakes never used because of dynamic braking. :-) Cough.
19:13:20 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	different type of brakes
19:13:22 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	FYI I own a Tesla model 3
19:14:05 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Pluggin in at night is not compatible with solar panesl.
19:15:17 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	You're supposed to have a $15000 Tesla Powerwall to store the solar energy made in the daytime so you can plug in your car at night. :-)
19:15:35 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	Or several Powerwalls.
19:16:25 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	Power companies typically have excess capacity at night (at least now).   Their highest demand is during the day when solar can help out.
19:17:30 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Naperville has net metering.  The grid is my solar panel battery
19:20:02 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Does fast charging shorten the life of the battery?
19:20:21 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Yes, but not as much as you might think
19:22:43 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	with the low chassis clearance what happens if you run over a large object at high speeds?
19:24:20 From Robert To Everyone:
	Looks dramatic, but a logarithmic plot would be more helpful
19:29:37 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	CHarge stations cost *3 residential electric rate.
19:36:02 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	restaurant I would want to go to is unlikely to be near sup-ercharger
19:38:33 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	I wonder f sny EVs have solar cells on the roof?
19:41:56 From wayne To Everyone:
	https://apnews.com/article/technology-joe-biden-business-environment-and-nature-climate-change-5913fff50378b5706769463a2b02dfca
19:51:47 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Solar Panels can’t generate enough power to justify the cost
19:54:28 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	https://www.sfgate.com/technology/article/Ford-s-experimental-car-has-solar-panels-on-roof-5107688.php
19:54:38 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Radar can't see it.
19:55:16 From wayne To Everyone:
	https://www.canoo.com/canoo/
19:55:53 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	they're too quite which can be dangerous
19:57:26 From Joe Sullivan To wayne(Privately):
	nice car for mars Elon would be impressed!
19:58:25 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	if you run out of power on the road, can  you get a field recharge as e3asily as a gallon of gas?  fpr sire cam'
19:58:38 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	t walk to a station to get the gass, need a service to come to you
19:59:25 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Not yet, but there some experiments in Norway on field emergency charging
20:00:53 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	that's where the solar cells come into play!
20:02:36 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	maybe someday you could use a cell phone to get a small charge to get you to a charging station
20:04:07 From wayne To Everyone:
	https://www.canoo.com/canoo/
20:05:58 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	emergency charge via jumper cable from ice car?
20:07:15 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	No, ICE is a 12V system
20:07:56 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	yeah like a bumber car stops as soon as you take your foot off the pedal
20:08:42 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	No way the battery can take energy as fast as a hard braking will generate
20:09:11 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	matter of building an adapter to charge from 12 v
20:09:58 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	som eareas the lane markers are VERY faded, does it e ver miss sthem
20:10:05 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	A Tesla Regen braking feels surprisingly hard.  I’d say a more accurate way of describing it is emergency braking. But it is a grey boundary between the two
20:10:47 From Tammam ALWAFAI To Everyone:
	How often do I need to replace the batteries? and how much does it cost?
20:13:31 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	satisfaction is very subjectived, and related to prior cars owned by the person
20:13:46 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	What if you don't have one of those damn phones?
20:14:07 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	You carry the key card as a backup anyway
20:14:09 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	CR and JD Power have other things to say about quality.
20:14:37 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	Where is the Shopsmith.
20:16:32 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	can you get a cd player?
20:16:55 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	🤣🤣🤣🤣
20:17:06 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	transmit video elsewhere incase care is disabled and remocws?
20:18:01 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	How didi the  car know where you were standing?
20:18:34 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	years ago i wanted to convert a jetta to electric with a kit that used a jet starter for the notor
20:21:29 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Camp mode
20:22:21 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	like you can cook on the ICE engine manifold while you're driving!
20:22:46 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	If you can FIND the manifold
20:24:51 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	is it bullet proof?
20:25:29 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Why do you need to know?  🤨🤣
20:25:50 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	no time to die JB
20:31:29 From Neil Ormos To Everyone:
	Where's the part about the planer and joiner?
20:33:21 From Peter Richey To Everyone:
	Q: What is the typical cost for using a charger on the road such as at a lunch stop?
20:33:35 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	If anything needs regenerative brakes, it
20:33:49 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	garbage trucks and busses.
20:34:17 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	25-30cents/Kwh
20:34:46 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Naperville Electric is 10.9cents/Kwh as a comparison
20:35:11 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Credit card is attached to your account. It’s all automagic
20:35:54 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	Tesla towers to EVS
20:36:13 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	have you looked at negative pollution cars?  using compressed air, exhaust is cleaner tha ambient air
20:38:03 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	Where do you get the compressed air?
20:38:41 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	gas statios?
20:39:10 From Grant P He/him To Everyone:
	Q: if your phone battery is dead, I presume you need to have a key/card with you to get into the car?
20:40:05 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Yes
20:40:57 From Eugene Bordelon To Everyone:
	What do you know about Illinois tax credits for EV starting sometime next year?
20:41:38 From Grant P He/him To Everyone:
	What privacy protection does Tesla provide, since they get so much info about you and your movements? I’d also be concerned about their data protection.
20:41:41 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Have not heard.  EVs have a special registration tax to compensate for the lack of fuel taxes
20:42:32 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	for us retired folks, tax credits are of limited use\
20:43:05 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Correct.  If you pay zero income tax, the credit is little use
20:44:25 From Grant P He/him To Everyone:
	If I want to get Solar at home, my understanding is that I should get the EV first so my electricity usage is based on charging the car, presuming I have enough roof space.
20:44:43 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	I would have a very big issue with the state tacking my milagr
20:45:55 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	Scott, we can't unmote
20:46:02 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	unmute.
20:46:20 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Can’t go off mute.  Yes I have a model 3
20:46:29 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	You might want to check the chat to see if any questions should be passed on to Jim
20:46:33 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	everyone can unmute now
20:47:53 From Eugene Bordelon To Everyone:
	We got a $4500 tax credit on Federal on our Toyota Prius Prime which goes about 30 miles on EV.  Even if you don’t have much tax, you still get this.  It is like 2 cars in one.  As an EV it is totally different, quiet, fast, smooth, no smells!
20:49:42 From Eugene Bordelon To Everyone:
	Beginning July 1, 2022, Illinois will offer a $4,000 rebate for a new or used electric vehicle.   Google this for more details.
20:50:32 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	I'd like to buy a used Tesla
20:51:16 From Carey/USA-IL-Chicago area To Everyone:
	that 8000 ev from china was for shipping or car and shipping?
20:52:16 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Sorry. Could you install a garage charger if your house has 100 amp service?
20:54:04 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Good to know.
20:56:28 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	My Google news feed is showing me articles about EVs now (Hmmm..)   This article  just popped up in my feed about a 3-wheel, one seat vehicle for $18,5000.     I would like to see the $8000 car!  https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/drove-3-wheeled-one-seater-163200636.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJYX5abxuenWZPoEfuOZtNA_fHKEf2hVQmT5noTqzUKkfj_nKIzQGLF75uvTofrEyjWVNDGc3NRojoday-fE8YAsFN3FP4QJy6_BLrTGbEccQrzqJ1A2ho8LIcCNwwfd0nPVv-caDasm9rcR5W1qa81wjabHIZ-Yvi-8JW1GKpE9
20:56:43 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Scary
20:57:17 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	jim (the speaker) is probably mis-remembering the details
20:57:28 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	on the 8k price
20:59:17 From wayne To Everyone:
	https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/electric-cars-usa.html
21:00:09 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Two problems: $ and $
21:01:22 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	https://abetterrouteplanner.com/
21:04:00 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	For interesting perspective on Tesla, look for superfastmatt on you tube, is converting a '50s jaguar to Tesla power.
21:07:23 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Superfast Matt worked at Tesla and talked about the quality problems.
21:07:29 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	I recommend YouTube channel “TeslaBjorn”
21:13:58 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	Bosch.
21:16:33 From Jim Harvey To Everyone:
	In the "Good old Days" a gas engine car would slow down like that when you lifted the throttle. Government polution controls changed that and now they just coast.
21:17:31 From Peter Fales To Everyone:
	Is one-pedal driving the only option?   Or is it something you can enable/disable?
21:18:04 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	it sounds like the break pedal is available if you want it
21:19:06 From Scott Nemec To Everyone:
	'one-pedal driving' is a way to drive.
21:19:44 From Joe Sullivan To Everyone:
	Thanks Jim!!!
21:23:52 From wayne To Everyone:
	3200 Ogden Ave, Lisle, IL 60532
21:25:02 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	One Pendel is an option
21:25:09 From Daryl Monge To Everyone:
	Settings menu 🤣